Gooder Podcast



Kate Flynn – Compostable Packaging Is HOT

“Meeting the needs of the consumer and meeting the needs of the environment sometimes is tricky.” – Kate Flynn
This week on the Gooder Podcast, I had the pleasure of talking with Kate Flynn, the founder and CEO of Sun & Swell Foods. We discuss the history of Sun & Swell Foods – one of the first food and snacking brands leading the way in the use of composable packaging. We also learn about the evolvement of sustainable packaging and Kate’s leadership in driving this hot topic. Along the way, we learn the amazing journey of a passionate leader in creating a more inclusive, accessible and affordable real food products for all consumers.
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In this episode we learn:
About the history and inspiration of Sun & Swell Foods.
Sun & Swell’s brand transition from a traditional CPG brand to a direct-to-consumer brand.
Kate’s journey from being a consultant in a firm focused on retail and consumer products to having a CPG brand herself.
The evolvement of compostable packaging technology. 
How to create accessibility, affordability for mainstream consumers in the healthy food category.
The advice she finds herself consistently giving entrepreneurs who have family members or loved ones as their business partners.
About Kate Flynn:
In 2017, Kate Flynn, and her husband and co-founder, Bryan Flynn, launched their natural food company, Sun & Swell Foods. Their mission is to make healthy and sustainable eating more accessible with their collection of sustainably-packaged, organic, plant-based pantry staples and snacks. Sun & Swell is the first food company in the US to offer a wide array of healthy foods in compostable, plastic-free packaging.
With a background in business economics and nutrition and a penchant for creating her own healthy snacks, Kate brings a unique set of skills to Sun & Swell Foods.  Early on, she pursued her academic career at UC Santa Barbara and graduated with a Master of Business Administration (MBA) from Harvard Business School. Kate’s professional career included a consulting role as a brand strategist in the retail and consumer products space, where she focused on brand and growth strategy for various leading CPG brands. After spending nearly ten years in the consumer products world, she was looking to do something more purposeful and fulfilling that would positively impact the world. In 2017, Kate took a leap of faith to follow her real passion for health and wellness to start Sun & Swell Foods with Bryan. 
Leading up to this, Kate had switched to a more natural lifestyle, including eating only ‘whole foods.’ She realized that eating a whole food diet made her feel better, both physically and mentally, and realized that she wanted to keep eating this way. However, when she looked around for packaged foods to accommodate this new way of eating, she realized there were no options available. Most packaged foods are made with artificial ingredients and loaded with added sugars, preservatives, and flavors. This realization sparked an idea, and Sun & Swell Foods was born.
When sourcing ingredients, Kate and her team buy organic ingredients as close to the source and farm as possible, seeking out small family farms. Sun & Swell is a Certified B-Corporation and a member of 1% for the Planet, donating 1% of the revenue to environmental non-profits addressing two areas the founders are deeply passionate about: regenerative farming and ocean health. 
When not running the company’s day-to-day, Kate loves frequenting Santa Barbara’s local farmers’ markets and beaches and spending time with her husband and newborn daughter, Leila. Kate is also a Certified Culinary Nutrition Expert.
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Episode Sponsor – Retail Voodoo:
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Key Takeaways:
0:00 Intro
3:47 Kate shares a little bit of history about her brand Sun and Swell Foods, what’s it’s all about and why it exists 
6:00 Kate talks about her experience in transitioning from being a consultant in a firm focused on retail and consumer products to having a CPG brand herself 
10:50 Kate talks about the process f how her brand is evolving from a traditional CPG brand to a DTC type of thing and the impact this has 
14:10 Kate also talks about where she is in the process to have a Whole Foods kind of standard of product ingredients which is accessible and affordable
18:07 Kate also talks about the process that they use so that they can be able to lower their prices for their products so as to make them accessible to all people  
20:00 Kate talks about the importance of understanding what the goal of your business is before making any huge decisions on what you want to lead with 
21:54 Kate also advices other businesses owners the importance of picking the niche that they want to be known for and being really good at it
24:31Kate talks about why as a brand you need to know what you are leading with and how you are messaging that to your consumers 
26:49 Kate talks about her leadership in the waste reduction, compostable packaging alternatives, how it starting to show up in the market and the impact it has and how she’s advising others 
32:05 Kate talks about compostable packaging and if it would work on products that have a long shelf life of even up to four years 
35:09 Kate talks about her experience in having her husband as a business partner and how they are managing their business and personal lives 
38:01Kate shares her advice to entrepreneurs who have family members as their business partners on how they can manage everything and be successful 
39:57 Kate talks about the importance of finding a reason to have a break from work for a few hours so as to avoid burnouts 
41:07 Kate talks about the importance of having a mentor and also mentoring others behind you and why you should be in a network full of all kind of entrepreneurs 
43:33 Kate shares what she feels is an amazing fact about their industry that most people didn’t know and would be amazed to know 
44:55 Kate talks about other women leaders that she admires and would love to elevate in this podcast 
46:11 Kate talks about the brands and trends that she has her eyes on and why 
47:02 Kate shares some tips that she uses to keep herself sane and centered these days  

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